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Rev. Gordon Clay and Mrs. Lisa Bailey

November 26, 2021 by admin Leave a Comment

Rev. Gordon Clay and Mrs. Lisa S. Bailey

Take On Faith – November 27, 2021

Rev. Gordon Clay and Mrs. Lisa S. Bailey appeared as guests on Take On Faith. They discussed their shared ministry and marriage with Rev. Xolani Kacela, the show host. Rev. Gordon Clay and Mrs. Lisa Bailey joined the program from Las Vegas, Nevada.

Rev. Bailey serves as minister of the Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Las Vegas, NV. He is also a Board-Certified Clinical Chaplain and Pastoral Counselor with the College of Pastoral Supervision and Psychotherapy.

Lisa Bailey works in the social justice arena with the Showing Up for Racial Justice Las Vegas chapter, the boards of No Racism in Schools #1865, and the Artivists. Lisa was an advance reader for The Black UU Survival Guide.

During the talk, they gave witness to life as Unitarian Universalists. Each spoke about their experiences being in a mixed marriage. Rev. Gordon Clay and Mrs. Lisa S. Bailey also shined light upon the challenges of leading a white church.

Interestingly, the Bailey’s provided insight to the limits of a BIPOC leader in a white church. They spoke about the differences between Black church ministry and white churches. They offered insights to what keeps the two worlds apart.

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You can reach the Gordon C. Bailey or Lisa S. Bailey on their YouTube channel, The Bailey View.

From Guests’ Church’s Website:

The Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Las Vegas exists as a religious community. The valley-wide ministry shares the principles of Unitarian Universalism and provides a sanctuary and a voice for spiritual seekers. It serves as a force for social justice in the greater community. Here, we challenge members, friends, and visitors to think for themselves, grow spiritually, and express and live their values.

The Kindness of Strangers

November 22, 2021 by xk Leave a Comment

The Kindness of Strangers

November 22, 2021

I often experience the kindness of spring strangers in extraordinary ways. But two unrelated recent events put me a contact with people who extended themselves beyond the call of friendliness. Their kind acts prompted me to contact them afterward and let them know how much I appreciated them.

The events made me wonder something. Were the people affected by recent protests that encourage allyship and more conscious acts of kindness towards African Americans? Or were they simply great Samaritans in their own right. Both were at play in both instances.

My wife says people are kind to me because of my personality and countenance, which may have some truth. I believe people are good and expect goodness from them. When I look at myself, I don’t see anyone different from other Ordinary Joes walking down the street.

In one instance, two young guys rescued me after I overturned a boat in deep water. The accident occurred after I jerked my outboard motor tiller causing the boat to flip. I wore my life jacket and sustained no injuries. My vessel received minor damage and I lost some gear.

The two young guys came and conveyed my boat back to the dock, and, treated me like I was their best friend. They could have done the minimum or ignored me altogether and left me out in the water. After bringing me aboard their boat and back to shore, they retrieved all my gear they could find. They put the boat back together. They also performed other acts of kindness that I expected to do myself.

Their respect towards me, as a Black man, was simply the best. I imagine some of their kindness resulted from their families’ teachings or their military bearing since we were on a military base. They could have been influenced by recent events raising awareness about the plight of African American men.

I simply don’t know. I was overwhelmed by the two men. So I called them to express my appreciation a couple of days after the event took place.

In another instance, my wife and I met an older gentleman, probably in his 70s, who was with his four-year-old grandson. We hit it off upon meeting each other as we were preparing our boats for launch in the bay. The conversations were so friendly and warm the gentleman gave me some gear for trip, and later, following his fishing expedition, gave me some of his catch. Not only did it give me some fish, he gave me the largest of his catch, which was a beautiful, trophy-sized Red Drum.

I thought of him as a generous spirit who displayed a super kind act far beyond everyday experience. We got to know each other better after connecting several times.

It makes me wonder why there is so much distress for other Black men going about their lives in a non-drama fashion. Are the people who cause harm under duress or driven by unconscious bias and aggression? Where is their wiring that endears them towards kindness?

I don’t believe I deserve any better treatment than the next guy. In fact, my close friends, most of whom are African American, enjoy the same freedoms and kindness of strangers as others.

There is enough White on White crime in this country, particularly, to tell me that most crime happens regardless race. The recent trial of Kyle Rittenhouse provides a perfect example White on White violence, which resulted in two deaths and five felony charges against Rittenhouse. Last week, Rittenhouse was found not guilty on all charges, which is my opinion, what’s the fair verdict resulting from a fair trial. The point I’m making here is that the trial was prompted by acts by a White person against other White people.

Still, the use of force by law enforcement officers against Black men far exceeds the use of force against Whites. The Center for Policing Equity reports the mean rate for Black residents was 273 per 100,000. That is 2.5 times as high as the overall rate and 3.6 times as high as the rate for White residents (76 per 100,000).[1] That represents a significant disparity.

Is a correlation between use of force and use of kindness possible?

I wonder why (or whether) most kindness doesn’t extend itself as I experience it? If it did, it seems human beings can disrupt prejudice, reduce bias in the world, and offer one another equal respect, without regard to skin color and origin.

At this stage of my life, most of my daily human contact is with kind White people. That is a product of living in Las Cruces, New Mexico, a city with about three percent African Americans. I also pastor a 96% White Unitarian Universalist church.

On this Thanksgiving week, I plan to reach out to my friends I met who were so generous and helped me and showed kindness for the sake of being kind. I want to let them know how much I appreciate them as human beings. Their kindness affected my life and boosted my spirits and confidence in human relationships, especially between African Americans and Whites.


[1] Phillip Atiba Goff, Ph.D., et al., The Science of Justice: Race, Arrests, and Police Use of Force, Los Angeles, Center for Policing Equity, July 2016, 14.

Rev. Abhi Janamanchi and Rev. Katie Romano Griffin

November 13, 2021 by xk Leave a Comment

Rev. Abhi Janamanchi and Rev. Katie Romano Griffin

Take On Faith – November 13, 2021

Rev. Abhi Janamanchi and Rev. Katie Romano Griffin were guests on Take On Faith. They serve as senior and associate minister at Cedar Lane Unitarian Universalist Church in Bethesda, MD. You’ll love this lively talk with host Rev. Xolani Kacela.

Click the arrow to listen to the audio or click here to download the file.

During the talk, Rev. Abhi Janamanchi and Rev. Katie Romano Griffin discussed Unitarian Universalism and how they approach multi-cultural and multi-faith ministry. Wise and clear, they opened up about how BIPOC leaders do their work in mostly white churches. They laid out how important it is to reach beyond race to build beloved community.

Importantly, they reflect on Cedar Lane’s mission. They spoke about Spirit Experience, a special service the church offers. You’ll learn how they manage cultural differences and other leadership challenges. Both guests kept it 100.

Janamanchi and Romano Griffin engaged Xolani Kacela in a must-hear conversation. It will tickle your senses. You’ll want to share this podcast with all your friends!

You can reach Rev. Janamanchi at: ajanamanchi@cedarlane.org; Facebook; Twitter.

You can reach Rev. Romano Griffin at: kromanogriffin@cedarlane.org; Instagram; Facebook.

Darby Berryhill

October 30, 2021 by xk Leave a Comment

Darby Berryhill

Take On Faith – October 23, 2021

Darby Berryhill, author of 7th Heaven It Was Not, and member of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Las Cruces, was the guest on Take On Faith on KTAL-LP. Berryhill sat down with Rev. Xolani Kacela for a chat about her life as a pastor’s kid, or PK.

Darby Berryhill as a toddler.

Berryhill’s book portrays in clear detail the lives that preacher’s kids endure. She writes about many struggles. They include living up to family and friends’ thoughts of who she should be, feeling pressure to put on “airs,” and attending four high schools during her teen years.

The book is a great read for listeners who have grown up in clergy families raising children. It’s a short and eye-opening narrative. 

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